Theegravedigger

The first hidden movement game we've enjoyed.

Many years ago, there was a game on the Xbox that I used to play online, spies vs mercs, from Splinter Cell : Pandora tomorrow. A two vs two game of trying to sneak in and do stuff while being hunted. This game, brings back all the fun I had back then. 

Being 2 vs 2, it's easy to teach, as you can have a pair of more experienced players each teaching a newcomer how to play. And once both teams get up to speed, there's quite a bit of clever puzzling to do. 

There's enough information to have a good idea what they might be up to, but enough ways they could change things that you have to make guesses. 

Definitely a interesting puzzle and an original design for a box, acting as the shield and scoreboard. 

2 points by Theegravedigger - updated 10 days ago | 14 comments | report | subscribe

JamesReid860 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Interesting. I wouldn't think hidden movement in a two player game would work. 

JamesReid860 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Oh. You said 2vs2... my bad. The teams idea is pretty unique. 

Theegravedigger 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Somehow it feels smoother than 3 vs 1, and there's also the information leaks when you communicate your plans. 

JamesReid860 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Right. Gotta be careful with that.

I guess Star Wars Rebellion is sort of like this if you do the 2v2 variant. 

Theegravedigger 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

That's one I've been meaning to try, though people say you don't need it, it's not really different from a single player. In this one, there is enough difference in the actions that it works. 

BenjaminK 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

2-player hidden movement can be done. I’m kind of working on one myself. It was a finalist in a Button Shy contest a few years back, and I want to make it bigger than just a wallet game now. Definitely potential for two player hidden movement games, but yes, they can be a bit more tricky. 

BenjaminK 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Sabotage looks very interesting. I recognized the artwork as being from Burgle Bros., and while I haven't played that game yet, I would sure love to. I love the use of the box.

Hidden movement games are some of my favorites, with Specter Ops topping the list. I actually designed a hidden movement game for a Button Shy contest, with parameters of only having 18 cards and up to 10 coins. I used the rules sheet as the player screen, so I definitely appreciate the use of the box in Sabotage. I'll have to check this one out!

Theegravedigger 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

I think it's the 2 vs 2 rather than the 1 vs 4 that makes Sabotage work for our group. People working together are less likely to make rules mistakes, which can really help when people are learning the game. Well, they make the mistakes, but the other player catches them. 

BenjaminK 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Yeah, mistakes are hard to catch in hidden movement. You don't know how (or how many times) they "cheated" until the game is over...or when you give away your position when in reality you didn't have to. 

Theegravedigger 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

That's definy been one of the issues with some of the hidden movement ones. 

Skurvy5 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Specter Ops looks cool but I’ve never had the opportunity to try it. But if you like it I’m sure that I will. 

BenjaminK 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

I feel like I have a lot to live up to now haha It's best with at least three players, so keep that in mind.

JamesReid860 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

Hidden movement is a mechanic that I don't really have in my collection. I'm thinking Specter Ops will need to fill that hole soon (hopefully). 

BenjaminK 10 days ago | 1 point[-]

When it comes to hidden movement, Specter Ops is one of the best. I’m sure you’d enjoy it :) 

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