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What's your biggest turnoff about a game?

What about a board game is the most likely to turn you away from wanting to play it, or even try it in the first place? It could be a theme you don't like, mechanics that bother you, bad art, or anything else.

For me, I really don't like games that involve lying or deception. I'm thinking of bluffing or social deduction games like #Werewolf, #Coup, #Secret Hitler, etc. I'm a bad liar to begin with so I'm at a disadvantage there, but I also don't like how the name of the game is being deceptive and manipulative with your friends. I can see the appeal, but they're just not for me.

What is it for you?

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Supporter2 months ago

I have a hard time with Kickstarter exclusive games. Some of us aren't able to back a game on Kickstarter and it's sad that so many potentially great games never make it to retail. Or if they do come to retail the version is so inferior it's almost not worth getting. 

Premium User2 months ago

Agree with this totally. I don't really even mind the inferior product but at least give us something!

Supporter2 months ago

Yeah. I can't stand it when they go to all that effort to make a game. If it's worth making you should bring it to retail and keep making money on it. 

Premium User2 months ago

Couldn't agree more.

2 months ago

That's sad. I guess I wouldn't really know because I've never backed anything on Kickstarter, but that's one of the biggest reasons I don't, is because I'm afraid of all the gailed projects

Supporter2 months ago

I'm afraid of failed projects too. 

2 months ago

Yeah, it's going to take me a while to get over that

Supporter2 months ago

It's a moot point for me because my wife wouldn't approve of me spending money on a Kickstarter. 

2 months ago

oof

Supporter2 months ago

Indeed!

2 months ago

Amen to this. Kickstarter is so hit-or-miss too because you often don't get to try the game in a significant way (though some have demos virtually). As someone who doesn't want to dedicate that much of my disposable income to purchasing games, I have a hard time justifying spending $100 on a game that I can't experience or read trusted reviews about, and may not even receive for a year. At the same time, the FOMO is real haha

Premium User2 months ago

FOMO is absolutely real. And I hate that about KS. I was about to back the Pursuit of Happiness big box until I realized the lowest tier was just for a box and an expansion. Now I'm looking at the lowest amount I can spend to get the base game but it's $130. That's so much for something I'm not even for sure I'd enjoy! Why's it gotta be so expensive?

Supporter2 months ago

I know! It's just a money grab. A lot of these developers would totally be able to make these games without Kickstarter funding. But they do it anyway. 

Premium User2 months ago

Oh absolutely. They know we're just going to spend all our money on something just because they call it an exclusive lol.

Supporter2 months ago

Yes the FOMO is real. And game publishers know and encourage this. 

Supporter2 months ago

I have some....

There are themes that turn me off. I really don't like my themes to be too dark, too graphic, too demonic. I think that the gameplay of #Kingdom Death: Monster looks absolutely wonderful, especially as a solo gamer. But, I will never own this game, I wouldn't even accept a copy if you gave one to me. I don't want that art in my house where my children can see, it, and the art is hard to seperate from the game. If you could retheme that to be less graphic, maybe less dark, I would start saving up for it even if it was still $400.

I am still ok buying coop games for me to play solo. I am even ok with playing coops with "non-gamers." But, I am so over coops for multiplayer games in the hobby. I have no desire to ever play another coop with a gamer. I will not buy a coop that I can't play solo. So, non-soloable coops are a big turn off.

Cthulu

Zombies

Beat your own score solo variants.

Real time games

Fantasy. There is a wonderful fantasy IP out there. It is called LOTR. I will buy games in that universe. I might even buy games in other universes. But, I am biased against them.

app-integration.

 

These are turn offs. It does not mean that I will never buy a game with one or some of these elements. After all, I just acquired #The Lord of the Rings: Journeys in Middle-earth. This is a game with app integration. But, it is something that automatically makes me much less interested, and it has a much higher barrier of entry for me to get it.

2 months ago

obscurity when rules are not concrete... "I think that means this!...or this?"

2 months ago

Back to the FAQS, which I know are your favorite lol!

2 months ago

Touching a nerve buddy... lol

Premium User2 months ago

YES. THIS.

Premium User2 months ago

I'm also terrible at social deduction games but I love playing them! I'd own more if I ever had enough people over to play.

As for my biggest turn offs, I'm not sure if I really have many. I'll pretty much try any game out once. Poorly written rule books though definitely get me irked. Though I've been relying on video explanations more and more now.

2 months ago

You'd think with the amount of poor rule books out there, people would be trying to make that less of a problem these days right? I've been referring to a lot of videos lately too.

Premium User2 months ago

Some of the heavier stuff I've been playing lately just lends itself to a video explanation a little more I think. If only they weren't so wordy maybe I could use a rulebook.

2 months ago

The artwork. I hate games with bad artwork. I was surprised when I first learned how popular #Terraforming Mars was because I hated it, with the cheesy-looking real life photos on all the cards I'm not sure I'll ever be able to enjoy that game, unless it comes out with a new adition with actual good artwork in it

Supporter2 months ago

The artwork isn't that bad. And it isn't even that important really for the play of the game. But I think the negative comments on the artwork are way way overblown. Yes, it's hit or miss and some of it isn't that great. But other cards are quite good. And it's such a good game. You wouldn't want to miss it just because of something as petty as that. 

2 months ago

Isn't that bad? lol. Sorry, I gotta have good artwork. I tried giving it a chance. I probably didn't like it much more due to the fact that my friend sucks at explaining the rules of games, and I had no idea. But the artwork was still throwing me off

Supporter2 months ago

There was a different thread a while back where we talked about this exact issue. I'm more of the opinion that a game can be great and have poor art but just because a game has great art that doesn't mean it's a great game. The mechanics and gameplay are what truly matter and TM has fantastic mechanics and gameplay. The art is just extra. 

2 months ago

I guess so. I'm just a big judge of art I guess

2 months ago

100% this.  I just can't get into games like this. A game that is primarily 3 shades of beige is just not going to draw me in.  Many games have proven that it's possible to have great artwork and functional visuals, so any time I hear that a game has boring but functional artwork, it tends to make me roll my eyes.  The implication is that interesting or attractive artwork is inherently less functional, and I don't think that's true.  Lots of games have artwork that accomplishes both things well. 

That was definitely an oddity of this industry I had to adjust to when I was getting into the hobby. I didn't understand it at all until I became more familiar with the lineage of well-playing games that came out of Europe that just didn't care to do much with a game's artwork or theme.  I'm fine with games with less integrated themes, but if I play a game for 1-2 hours or more even, staring at bad or boring artwork starts to wear on me.  I find that I care about it much less for games that play under an hour.

I also have a distaste for games that have pretty standard art design in its board and components, but have really great looking box art. I was a bit disappointed seeing demos of Cloud Age and Sagani for that reason. Great box art that has very little to do with the game inside.  

Premium User2 months ago

Wait I always thought there were 4 shades of beige...Have I been lied to?