Which games can you not get the hang of strategy-wise?

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Saw this thread on /r/boardgames and wanted to start one here as well! So which games do you just not "get" in its strategy (whether 100% confusion or just not seeing the optimal strategy) even after 2-3 or more plays? Why do you think that is?

Here's mine:

#Pax Pamir (Second Edition) - Played once, and I just felt dazed. That was the first and only time in my gaming career when I felt so lost. I think it was mostly due to it being my first time playing a game of that genre, and I also couldn't understand what the goal is. Hope to give it a try soon but using the solo mode this time.

#Clans of Caledonia - For this, I just don't know the optimal strategy yet, even after around 6 plays. I thought I was doing fine, but according to the solo mode scoring chart, I place as a Rookie or a Newbie in my solo plays lol. The goals are clear, the way to score is clear, and it has a streamlined design. But it has highly different clan powers and I haven't played enough to harness their powers. Also, the end of the round goals are randomly setup for each game, and there are times when a setup can synergize so well with a certain clan's power, and then there are times when they contrast completely. It has a great balance of long term strategy and tactical plays based on the random setups, and I just haven't yet found the sweet spot.

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5 months ago

I had and have a lot of trouble with #Tigris & Euphrates. There is just a lot of abstract concepts there!

Supporter5 months ago

I am really looking forward to having you play it again.

For me I think of abstrect strategy games. I stink at #Chess, #Go, or Xiangqi are all really hard for me to "get."

5 months ago

I think I definitely have a plateau in those kind of games, I can plan a few moves ahead and have contingencies. But the long-term strategy of a whole game tends to allude me.

Have you ever tried #Onitama? That has a wonderful twist of you handing your opponent their next possible moves which I really struggle to plan for beyond the immediate couple of turns 

Supporter5 months ago

I enjoy Onitama, I recognize it as a brilliant game, but, I don't love it. 

5 months ago

No, it isn't one of my favourites, it was more just for me to point out a mechanic that I struggle with

Supporter5 months ago

ah.... gotcha.

Supporter5 months ago

I've played all three of those abstract games, mostly tons of Chess and Go. It's absolutely mind boggling that games with such simple rules can have so many strategies, to a point where you have a giant step ladder of beginner to world class players.

Supporter5 months ago

I feel like I have a ok grasp of them, but I always seem to play against better players. 

And, I don't enjoy them enough to devote the time and study I need to become good, or even a bit better. 

Supporter5 months ago

#Black Angel That game baffled me the first time I was playing. I couldn't wrap around my head on what strategy to focus on, what time of action to use where and I continually made mistakes that netted me 0 points for each of the things I tried. I'd expect that I'd need a few more plays to really understand everything. Although there was nothing that really excited me to come back to it since.

Supporter5 months ago

I see that it has a solo mode! I might ask to borrow in the way way future just so that I can share my own thoughts on it haha

By the way, how did Joanne feel about the game? And it's so rare to have a game that will net you zero points that often. That's so rare for euros since many of them go out of their way to reward you at least something.

Supporter5 months ago

That’s too bad. The game looks absolutely beautiful. 

5 months ago

You are not the only person have trouble wrapping their mind around a PAX game lol. They take multiple plays to really grasp everything going on!

Supporter5 months ago

Sure seems like it :(

I do think though that if I were to sit down and give it a try, I think I'll love the puzzle it offers. Any idea when your copy of Pax Pamir 2E will arrive?

5 months ago

I just got a Kickstarter update that said they are moving into card production and the other component production has been going on for a while! Estimated delivery is September/October I believe. I am just happy production is actually happening and it has not been on hold with COVID!

Supporter5 months ago

Do they have a Pax Romana? If they dont, they should. 

5 months ago

It looks like there was a Pax Romana at one point in time but not by the same designers (either Phil Eklund or Cole Wehrle). Pax Renaissance may be the closest to that theme.

5 months ago

I don't have all that many games to go off of, but one that I routinely get destroyed at is 7 Wonders. I don't know what it is - I know how it all works, and I'm often the one teaching it, but I don't remember the last time I won. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Supporter5 months ago

Spirit Island. I have a really difficult time getting into the game. 

5 months ago

I regularly get my butt handed to me in #Perudo, my university group of board game friends and I often take it when we take trips together and I enjoy it every time but I think I have won a grand total of once out of probably 20-30 plays and that was when we each played with two cups of dice so it was a very different game. The odds/numbers aren't something I struggle with, I just can't seem to walk the right line of bluffing/ playing the odds. And it is a game that gets harder once you start losing which doesn't help at all.