It hurts so good.

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I just finished a "quick" solo "first mission" playthrough of Star Trek :Frontiers. I know I messed some rules up but.... What can you say. Here are my first thoughts in no particular order. 

This thing is so fiddly and complex. But I find that enjoyable in this context.  But trying to wring good stuff out of my deck is so fun, even though it gives me a headache in a good way. 

This thing is brilliant. At first blush, based on gameplay alone, I'd give it a a 9 or 10 out of ten. There are so many things that are so satisfying, the feeling of leveling up, the slow burn of your deck, the cool story beats that come through. Speaking of story...... 

The theme is essentially pasted on. And there are moments of thematic disconnect, for instance you can have Picard decimate a random innocent planet, and sometimes it makes gameplay sense for him to do that. But, at the same time they're are moments where the ship is in a battle and you pull off a brilliant win in spite of the odds. Basically, if you are winning to hold the Star Trek theme a little loosely a good story does emerge though it may not be star trek canon. 

Components are not great. They aren't bad they would even have been really good 15 years ago. But they just aren't great. 

Art also lacks. All the art is movie stills. I wish they would have done what FFG does with their Star Wars games and gotten some good original art for it. I am suspicious that the Star Trek franchise might not allow original art, because I have never seen anything other than movies stills in any star trek themed boards game. But it is worse than that. The crew card art is sorta fuzzy, I know these shows were shot decades ago, but, come on. Also, the general  color palate is quite dark. I know space is dark but I do prefer what Ian O'Toole did with space in Black Angel.

Iconography : I don't feel like it will be too hard to get the hang of it. But there are a lot of small icons, and they can make a big difference on gameplay. 

Rulebook(s) I feel are generally ok.they could be really good if they included an index. 

Final thoughts from my first impression. I loved my first game. I can easily see this becoming my favorite solo experience, maybe even favorite game. I think with a little bit of experience I can get a solo session whipped out in 90 minutes or so, in other words, perfect for my son's Sunday afternoon naps.  But, I do think there is a steep learning curve. And I would find it difficult to recommend wholesale. I would not say that this is a game that everyone needs too play. But for me, it is great. 

Disclaimer. These are my first impressions. I'll try and let ya'll know more after I have more time with it. Also, I will link to a review below that I feel has a lot of good points. 


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Supporter8 months ago

This game looks fun but for the price I’d would have hoped for better components. This one already needs a second edition with upgraded components and an app!

Supporter8 months ago

An app, that I don't really want. I can see where some people might enjoy it but I really try to steer clear of apps with my board games. 

Upgraded components. I agree with you, but there are a lot of components, too increase the physical quality of the cardstock, cardboard, and plastic would peinador have jacked the price up considerably. The art is the biggest thing I wish could be changed. 

Also, it is wierd, but in many ways this is a second edition of mage knight. Yes, I know it had a different theme..... But I do here that a some of the components are better edition than in MK. 

Supporter8 months ago

I just wondered if an app would fix some of the fiddly and provide more "star trek" type adventure to it. 

I have heard that this is almost a second edition of MK too. I'm glad to hear that the components are a bit better than that. 

Supporter8 months ago

That is what I hear. I haven't personally compared them. 

Supporter8 months ago

MK is a highly regarded game but really seems to almost have a cult following at this point

Supporter8 months ago

Yes, and that bugs me a bit. But, often those games do have good gameplay to back them up. 

Have you seen how many games vlaada chvatil has in the BGG top 100?

Supporter8 months ago

No I didn’t count. How many?

Supporter8 months ago

4 in the top 100 

8 in the top 200.

Those are some pretty consistent numbers. 

Supporter8 months ago

Wow that’s pretty good. I’ve really like the couple games of his Ive played. Really engaging if a bit fiddly. 

Supporter8 months ago

It's amazing how he has deep complex hits like Through the Gges along with simple hits like Codenames. 

Supporter8 months ago

I mean, right? And a lot of good in the middle games. Even their role-playing game is great from what I hear. That one was designed by the owners of my FLGS. 

Supporter8 months ago

I don't know anything about their RPG. 

Supporter8 months ago

I don’t know much because I don’t play RPGs

https://www.renegadegamestudios.com/overlight


do you play RPGs?

Supporter8 months ago

I use to DnD a little bit. But it has been 10 years or more since I have done any RPGing.

Have you played RPG's?

Supporter8 months ago

No I haven’t. Not really a desire to but might in the right circumstance

8 months ago

Nice! Glad you're enjoying it, and are able to still enjoy it that much despite its flaws. I'm thinking this might be one I'll be interested in. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Supporter8 months ago

Like I said I would have trouble unreservedly recommending to anyone at this point. BUT, I do feel like the system gives my what I am looking for in a deep solo game. 

It is a retheme of Mage Knight. If you are interested I would research both and choose the theme you prefer that is what I did. 

Supporter8 months ago

Love hearing about your first play!  I still haven’t gotten Raiders of the North Sea to the table yet.  Hopefully in a couple of weeks so I can finally share my thoughts.

I feel you on the artwork.  Put some money into and get something really beautiful.  Ascetics are such a great part of Board Games.

Supporter8 months ago

Yes they are important. I can live with the art the way it is, but man, if Ian O'Toole would have illustrated it...... It would really have elevated it. 

Supporter8 months ago

This sounds awesome!

Supporter8 months ago

If AI is this good than I want it. 

Yes, it might get old for me as I know it better. But it feels like a game that is more likely to get better with more plays. 

Supporter8 months ago

https://meeplelikeus.co.uk/star-trek-frontiers-2016/

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