Themes You Love But Don't Have

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I don't know about everyone else, but there are some themes I'm really into (well one in particular) that I don't have in my collection yet and need to figure out how to get into my collection.

SciFi/Space - I don't have anything from this, and I love SciFi novels in particular (with Dune being at the top of the list), so it's crazy to me that I don't hae anything yet.  Maybe if I win another giveaway or my 2021 purchase can be a SciFi game.  

So I have two questions.

What are your favotire SciFi/Space games?  Do you have any themes you really want but don't have yet?  Why don't you have them?  When do you hope to get them?

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Supporter2 months ago

Just had one more thought. Not sure exactly why but I'm often drawn to themes that are based on reality but with a slight twist--alternate reality I suppose? Or at its extreme, something like a dystopian setting? I just really enjoy the world-building involved and seeing the designer's vision come alive. I have no idea how in-depth #CloudAge will go with its story/background, but the idea of the theme attracted me right away.

2 months ago

Probably the favourite Sci-Fi game that I own is #Cry Havoc, it's got all the classics: Human Marines, Sentient Machines, Advanced alien races and Primitive alien creatures.

I think a theme that I would like is a more animal based game, something like #Evolution: Climate or #Dominant Species would be a bunch of fun but haven't had the chance to play. I doubt I will pick anything up for a while but I'd certainly like to give them a go.

Supporter2 months ago

Yeah, I know we've spoken about #Cry Havoc before.  My biggest hold up on it is that it is 4P only and I have a few 4P games that I want to pay when we only have 4 already (although non are SciFi themed).

2 months ago

I feel like it plays equally well at 3P (the fourth faction becomes an environmental hazaard of sorts) and is certinaly not a bad game at 2P. But it's certianly best at 4P

2 months ago

What are your top 4P games?

Supporter2 months ago

Okay, I'm coming back to you for some advice. #Cry Havoc or #Empires of the Void II

2 months ago

Supporter2 months ago

The games I generally want to play when I'm at a 4P count are #Root (I think it plays best at 4, but can be good at 5), and #Clans of Caledonia (which currently only plays 4P max).

2 months ago

I've not played either, but Root is definitely on my 'to play' list

Supporter2 months ago

I think at the moment they are my top 2 games. #Root I anticapte staying in the top spot for me for a while.

Supporter2 months ago

I've mentioned this before but there's a big discrepancy between my preferences between board games and movies, where even though I really like sci-fi themes, I often find that I stay away from sci-fi themes in board games because it's not handled in a way that's attractive to me (or I just never came across the right ones). (1) The art is usually either very cliched/following the same old tropes, or it's just poorly illustrated and (2) the theme and story seems shallow. I guess I just feel like sci-fi board games don't sell themselves very well, especially not to a wider, non-hobbyist audience. Modern sci-fi movies are great at appealing to a much larger group but I think the general board game scene is a little behind the times on that front. 

#2 is really just a case of me not having encountered enough good sci-fi games or my indifference toward them, but #1 is something I see all the time.

Also, the two sci-fi games that piqued my interest despite my pickiness are #Anachrony and #Empires of the Void II. Interestingly, they both have illustration styles that aren't 100% appealing to me, but it's much better than most out there. And their mechanics and premise alone grabbed my attention.

Supporter2 months ago

What are some of the more modern SciFi movies you watch?  Most of my SciFi I would say is books and not movies.

Supporter2 months ago

Some of them aren't even the "best" movies out there but I've still enjoyed watching them with my wife! Here are some that come to mind:

  • Maze Runner series
  • Star Trek (the new ones that came out a few years ago)
  • The Martian (Matt Damon trying to survive on Mars and get back to Earth)
  • Edge of Darkness (time loops! Based on a Japanese light novel)
  • Hunger Games (does this count?)
  • Source Code
  • Inception
  • And, of course, Wall-E ;) (and Iron Giant gets a shoutout, that movie is so well done)

Supporter2 months ago

Nice.  See most of my SciFi fandom is based on novels which I think could have a different impact on my view toward SciFi themed games, and their components/art/etc.  I really love old 60's and 70's style SciFi art for board games.

I think the new version of #Dune is stunning.  I do also like #Empires of the Void II art even though it's a bit more modern.  I would probably be even more attracted to it if it was more classic in it's art style.

2 months ago

#Empires of the Void II is really enjoyable, it's a really interesting kind of 4X game as everything is so fluid, rather than empires expanding it is more like you running around spreading your influence and conquering planets while everyone else reconquers the planets you left behind (and you do the same to them)

Supporter2 months ago

I really need to look that one up, I still have no idea how it plays!

2 months ago

You should, it's not at the top of any of my lists but it was really enjoyable and I'd love to have another crack at it

Supporter2 months ago

Right now this is tied with #Dune at the top of my SciFi wish list.  If I win another giveaway those both will be considerations, or if not I think one of them will be my 2021 board game purchase.

2 months ago

I feel #Dune is a lot more directly confrontational than #Empires of the Void II. Although both have combat, in Empires you don't hold it against someone as much as you are all just flying around taking over planets all the time

Supporter2 months ago

Knowing that (and the betrayal possibilities) I think #Dune interests me more.  Do you think if you are playing #Empires of the Void II with more aggressive players in general combat might be heightened?

2 months ago

I think it just feels less personal, it's often also quite lopsided as you can't always afford to leave a sizeable defence force on a lot of the planets, especially early on (this is somewhat mitigated later as only 3 units get to take part in a battle). That said, the way that the battles is decided is quite interesting as there is the number of dice you roll (but only the highest one counts) and then the 'power level' at the start of the curve, the number of dice has a greater impact (rolling two dice instead of one is huge) but later this dwindles (rolling 6 dice instead of 5 doesn't help much) and the amount of 'power' you can add becomes the greater factor, which is pretty cool as it makes different units more/less effective in different scenarios.

In Dune, every battle feels like quite a big deal, especially as the loser is just wiped off the board (as might the winner be) so there is a lot more tension. You are also often attacking to directly stop someone from winning the game in later rounds (whereas in EotV it is harder to tell who will win) so that adds heft to the decisions. 

Overall, I don't really put the two games in the same catergory, so hard to compare them: Dune is an area control and negotiation game, whereas Empires of the Void is a efficiency and 4X style game with a greater range of paths to victory.

Supporter2 months ago

Thanks, the more I've looked into both the more I think that they won't work for me. #Empires of the Void II seems a little light on the direct conflict, and unfortunately (this is a bigger loss to me) #Dune needs 6 people to really shine which I rarely (if ever) have.

Supporter2 months ago

My favorite IP of all time is LOTR. I have no games themed around that.

Favorite sci fi game is Star Trek: Frontiers. Race for the Galaxy is also superb but it's not exactly thematic... 

2 months ago

#War of the Ring (Second Edition):you know you want to......

2 months ago

Haha, I played #The Lord of the Rings not too long aago and it held up surprisingly well, nothing outstanding but wonderfully thematic and had a great sense of storytelling as you move from key moment to key moment

Supporter2 months ago

The Lord of the Rings is deftinitely an IP I need a game for.  They are my favorite novels of all time.

2 months ago

My favorite sci-fi/space game is #Dune...sorry haha.

As far as the topic, I love Star Wars, but I don't have any of the games. I had the X Wing starter pack for a short time, but quickly realized that it's a money sink and miniatures games are not my thing, despite how awesome the minis in X Wing are (seriously, I've considered buying them and keeping them in the box just because they're that cool).

If I ever see a price I like on #Star Wars: Outer Rim, I may pick that up, but outside of that, there's not too much that I'm all that interested in.

Supporter2 months ago

Don't be sorry... #Dune is creeping up my list and I think I'll eventually break down and pick it up.

Also, I do have #Star Wars Imperial Assault but I don't fully consider this a SciFi themed game because I consider Star Wars to be Space Fantasy and not really SciFi.

2 months ago

Oh yeah I would consider Star Wars to be it's own genre when it comes to games