What's Your Most Underrated Game?

Part of the community challenge is rating your board games on BGA. I've been going through and slowly rating my collection and was suprised at a few of the ratings my favorites have. #Karuba in particular stood out to me as we have it rated as a 64 on BGA and I think I would give it an 80 on fun factor alone. Even on BGG, it has a GeekRating of 6.924 out of 10.

What about everyone else? Are there any games you feel BGA or BGG has rated too low? Why do you think they're rated so low?

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Supporter2 months ago

There are three games in my owned/played list that are in the 60's but I think it should be pushed up into the 70's: #Hive, #Friday, #Skull. This usually occurs with abstracts, "smaller" games, games with luck, or family games.

2 months ago

oo Hive is excellent! That should be much higher.

2 months ago

Interesting. I've also noticed most "smaller" or "lighter" games seem to get rated lower. Any thoughts on why that may be?

2 months ago

The voting is decided by devoted gamers who are at the stage of their gaming life where they are more satisfied by complex games. If the general public were voting, #Obama Llama would be first. It's why the rankings need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

2 months ago

Good point! I've recently found myself being more satisfied by heavier games to the point where I had to be reminded we need to keep games around for our non gaming friends lol

2 months ago

I think #Archipelago and #Not Alone are probably my two. Both are ranked in mid-low 60s but would place them much much higher.

I think Archipelago ranks lower as it looks like it is a euro game when in reality it is a negotiation and trading game.

Not alone I am less sure, I have seen 'serious' gamers not enjoy it so much because they feel like it is just luck. Whereas for me you are trying to second guess your opponent/s and while it's not super heavy it plays up to 7 and everyone is engaged the whole time.

2 months ago

I've at least heard of both of these! But yeah I think luck based games aren't as popular for sure because it's impossible to strategize.

2 months ago

In my opinion there is almost no luck in the game. You are trying to get inside the head of your opponent. 

2 months ago

#Hoity Toity aka #Adel Verpflichtet aka "Adel Verplicht"

An excellent game of short rounds, bluff and risks. 
Nobody seems to know it and even though my 7yo daughter knows how to play it; it is a game with a lot of "emergent depth" (-> depth provided by the minds games and combination of mechanics rather than complex rules)

2 months ago

Add me to the list of those who have never heard of it. Bluffing games generally aren't my thing but I'll check it out

2 months ago

The first game that actually came to mind is Karuba! It really is so great!

2 months ago

Agreed! So addictive too

2 months ago

I play a minimum of 3 games each time this gets pulled out lol. 

2 months ago

#The Red Dragon Inn, and #BattleforGreyport both from Slugfest.  I love these games, and I think they are crinimally underrated.

 

Greyport is a great deckbuilder, and RDI is, in my opinion the best pure take that card game out there

2 months ago

Never heard of either of these but a game about drinking seems both fun and dangerous lol.

2 months ago

One thing to be aware of is the small sample size here on BGA compared to on BGG. That will make the ratings more volatile until we get more in the system.

Another difference is the rating scale. On BGG it's 1-10, here on BGA it's 1-5. Scores should be pretty similar, but if for example someone rated a game a 7 on BGG, they may prefer to give it a 3 here instead of a 4, which would lower the average.

Supporter2 months ago

Yup, exactly. We still need a lot more data to round things out and still need to transition to 100 point scale rating. Currently, it takes the 5 star rating and "converts" it. This item is far down the to-do list but I hope we'll get to it in the upcoming months.

Supporter2 months ago

We need to be able to rate on a 100 point scale!

2 months ago

Do you mean that you're planning to allow users to rate games on a 100 point scale? Like I could give a game an 87 or something?

2 months ago

That would be cool. With some of my ratings I've felt bad giving a good game a 3/5 knowing that would convert to a 60.

2 months ago

I wonder if a 100 pt scale would be too granular. Would a 10 point scale be enough? I find it hard to believe I could tell the difference between a 76 game and a 77 game.

Supporter2 months ago

Yeah, I could see that. And we've been pretty back and forth about it too. We want to have a default option that will make it easy to decide the rating, but for those who like to get down to the decimals (or single digits for 100-pt scale) we want to have that be an available option with just a click of a button or something

2 months ago

Makes sense. BGG's scale has that, and I've used it to give games a half-point. I've seen some people give games 2 decimal places so that the sorting is unambiguous.

FWIW, I remember a few years back, Netflix switched away from a 5-star scale to the current "thumbs up/down" scale, as they found that the data they got from the 5 point scale was less useful than the thumbs data. Not quite a 1 to 1 comparison with personal board game data, but kind of interesting: https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/16/14952434/netflix-five-star-ratings-going-away-thumbs-up-down

Supporter2 months ago

Will check it out, thanks!

And yeah, some people go absolutely crazy with those. I've seen Rahdo's collection before where he sometimes goes into the thousandth place.

2 months ago

Haha, I think Rahdo's is where I first saw someone do that.

2 months ago

Good points! I'm definitely going to spend some time bumping up the number of ratings at least for games I've played in my collection

50 days ago

I finally got around to creating that #Founders of Gloomhaven video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Jx0kmKRNE ) to demonstrate the solo run through and a little bit of why I think it's a good game that gets dinged because of the finicky rulebook and possibly expectations going into the game.  

For those who take the time to view the playthrough I'd love to know what you think, if my rules explanation makes sense, if you think I missed anything, and if you've played the game what did you think?  

2 months ago

#MiddleEarthQuest

It suffers from a lack of plots and missions and a disappointing final part in some cases. Both of those we have addressed by making our own components and changing some of the rules. The version we play at home, with it's legacy system and all, is an incredible experience.

Supporter2 months ago

I made a post a few weeks back explaining my two criteria for ratings and I definitely favor the first criteria (does the game do/offer what it says it's going to) over my second (is this a game I'd prefer to play).

For me the one that stands out that I rank at a 9 or 10 (or 4.5-5 on BGA) is #My Little Scythe.  Now if I were to play this game as an adult only game, yeah it'd drop way down, but I don't.  If I want the #Scythe experience in an adult game night, well, I'll play Scythe.

But for introducing my young family to gaming, and further more to heavy gaming #My Little Scythe is in my opinion the perfect game to develop a deep appreciation for the hobby at their play level.  It offers a nice light version of Scythe with awesome art and a fun theme.  Right now it is too low (although now I'm going to go rate and review it to bring it up).

2 months ago

Glad to know#My Little Scythe is actually good! I saw it at my FLGS not too long ago and joked with my friend who introduced me to Scythe that it would be on his baby shower registry lol