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Which puts a bigger dent in your pride - losing to a human or losing to an AI?

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AI(4 votes) 24%
Human(2 votes) 12%
Neither(4 votes) 24%
Losing to my own stupidity(5 votes) 29%
Depends on which human(2 votes) 12%

17 votes

When it comes to competitive spirit, I'm somewhat of an adapter. I'll adjust how competitive I'll be depending on who's present at the table. On top of that, it's rare for me to feel frustrated by a loss as long as I feel like I enjoyed the gameplay and was able to test out whatever strategy I was going for.

And that's where my question comes from. Personally, I feel that I tend to get more frustrated losing against an AI opponent in a solo session vs. losing to a typical human opponent because (1) it's a loss after giving my 100% whereas I'll hold back a little when there are beginners present and (2) it has a bigger impact on my pride to think that I lost to a robot 😆

So here are my questions:

  1. Which hurts more? Losing to an AI opponent or a human opponent?
  2. For those who solo games, which AI opponent has been the toughest to beat so far?

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39 days ago

I went with neither, though individual people can be more frustrating in general win or lose. That's just humans though.  I did have to tell my wife that she needs to celebrate a little bit or at least be visibly happy when she wins.  Its the worst feeling when you are trying to win and lose to someone who seems like they don't care whether they win or lose.

Premium User39 days ago

One of my non gamer friends was actually complaining about this when it came to his girlfriend. He's like win or lose she just doesn't care so I don't play anything with her. It made me seriously laugh out loud trying to picture it. Of course I feel like I was kind of the same way when I submitted those trick shot vids to awhile back. All of them you'd expect me to celebrate but I was just done after trying to make it work so many times haha

39 days ago

You're still hoping to see those huh? haha

Premium User39 days ago

I mean I can look at my own all I want I guess but I wanna see what everyone else ended up doing lol. So yes

38 days ago

Watch, you're the only one who took the hours and hours to actually do them haha

Premium User37 days ago

If that were true I would be very sad. Though at this point I wouldn't doubt it

39 days ago

I don't tend to get too bothered about losing: I have a LOT of experience doing so. I would say my pirde is hurt most when victory was achievable but I either missed something obvious or overthought something to the point that I shoot myself in the foot. Then I do feel a little silly

Premium User39 days ago

I've lost way more than I've won recently and I'm totally okay with it. Up until this November, I wasn't even tracking win stats. I only started because Sarah claims I win "all the time." And not only do I win but I win big whereas when she wins it's like she barely squeaks out the victory haha. According to her anyway...we'll see if the numbers back her up by next November

38 days ago

I did something similar in a D&D game I was in. It was primarily because half of the players bought some "precision" dice and I was curious to see if a difference was detectable, but I also was curious because one player seemed perpetually annoyed and complaining that he was being unlucky and the dice were letting him down.

I tracked 1913* rolls on 6 or 7 different d20s rolled by 7 players across a number of sessions. Pretty much every result was as you would expect (about 5% each) and no player seemed notably more or less lucky than the others. The precision dice didn't seem significantly more balanced than any of the others, really.

I'm pretty sure that I was enjoying the game more than the bloke complaining about his dice, though, I think a positive mental state even when things are going badly has a pretty big effect on how you perceive things. Of course, shortly after I stopped logging the dice rolls I had a session with about 20 rolls for my character and my highest number all session was a 5, so outliers do happen on occasion.

* Edited. I said about 1200 before but I've just looked up the exact number.

Premium User37 days ago

Yeah I feel that. Just play the game to have fun and usually you'll have a better time. She gets too competitive sometimes and I think it ruins it for her 

40 days ago

I generally don't mind losing, as long as the game was fun and I feel like at some point I had a fair chance at winning. I did, however, answer Human. There are just certain occasions that, for whatever reason, it really bugs me to lose. It might be the winner's attitude or something along those lines, and of course nothing like that would ever be an issue with an AI.

Premium User39 days ago

Sarah thinks I'm a sore winner sometimes so maybe we shouldn't play games together after all...LOL

Supporter40 days ago

I don't really get frustrated if I lose, as long as I had fun. I'm not the most competitive person (doesn't mean that I don't want to win) so as long as we all had a good experience that's the most important. 

The toughest AI I've played against is#Gaia Project. I have not come close to defeating it. 

Premium User40 days ago

With you on this. Games are supposed to be fun not competitive at least for me. But like said I can adapt and up my competitive spirit should the people I'm playing with tend to favor that way.

I feel like my general niceness in games causes the same effect for more cutthroat games/players. For example playing#Guild Master with. He was ready to compete at every turn and I'm just like nah it's cool you can do that I'm just here to learn lol. Probably played the nicest game you can play of that game.

40 days ago

Haha it was a pleasant time for sure. I'm used to cutthroatedness

Premium User40 days ago

See? You just can't get mad at me for playing nice haha 

38 days ago

I voted for "losing to my own stupidity", which I find very frustrating at times. I don't mind losing to an AI particularly, and view them as similar to a computer game in some ways.

Humans are pretty variable though. I've played against some smug people who I'm desperate to beat. I've got a friend who is just phenomenal at nearly all games and I don't ever feel bad losing to him. I'm extremely pleased and proud if my kids manage to beat me fair and square in a game.

38 days ago

Depends on the human and depends on what game AND the difficulty level I have the AI on lol

Premium User38 days ago

I don’t care if I lose but if I do poorly due to my own mistake it definitely stings a bit!

38 days ago

I'm losing my mind at the last two options. 😂

I'm picking losing to my own stupidity though. I think I get frustrated most when I misread/misunderstand something that I plan my whole strategy around and then realize that it was going to be impossible to disadvantageous to do. Happens far more frequently than I'd like, and I hate it when things don't go as I planned.

Depends on the game and the people I'm playing with though too. Sometimes...
Still prefer co-op stuff though.

Premium User38 days ago

I can understand that frustration too. Most games I play for the first time I'm making rules goofs left and right so if I'm misunderstanding something and then realize it later, I generally don't try to correct it until the next time I play

39 days ago

No issue with losing from AI, it's always cheating anyway :D

38 days ago

AI also doesn't mind when you cheat haha

Premium User38 days ago

Yep I feel this comment completely as we may have just cheated mildly with #Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion...don't tell the game though

38 days ago

Lol at the end of the day you're playing for your own enjoyment. In a co-op game, if it's more fun to fudge the numbers so you don't have to replay the scenario or something, I see no problem with it.

 

Premium User38 days ago

Yeah Sarah was not about to replay that scenario lol. She hit her secret personal goal and had gotten the treasure chest too haha. So what's the difference is right

39 days ago

For me it's losing against a human, because that person is sitting there in front of you, and he now has bragging rights. I don't really mind losing though, because I'm fairly good at games and still win a lot. I moreso care about how often other people in my gaming group wins, because I don't want them to stop playing games because they keep on losing. That's why I like cooperative games better, because during competitive games I'm worried about other people and I try to keep a balance.

Premium User39 days ago

You're a competitive one then aren't you? Lol

39 days ago

Oh not really, I don't care too much if I lose. It's just slightly harder to not care when losing to humans. On casual game nights, I just want everyone to have fun

Premium User39 days ago

I get what you mean I think. For me the vibe of the game night would depend on not only who is playing but how many people we have. Bigger groups would probably get more party type games that can accommodate more people. Then there are certain friends I'd only invite over to play some heavier stuff that may be more competitive where I'd potentially care more if I lost. Mostly that's because it's my game and I taught it so it's like how'd they come up with a great strategy on the first play? Must have been a great teach from me hahaha