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Viscounts Hitting Kickstarter March 3rd

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It'll be fun to follow at the very least.

5 points by sdirrane - updated 7 hours ago | 35 comments | report | subscribe

3MBG 4 days ago | 2 points[-]

I've got my copy already ;)  


Marshwiggle92 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

When will you review it? 

Have you played it? 

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Review should be up in time for the KS. And i've played it before, but a slightly earlier iteration which had an extra subsystem they took out

Marshwiggle92 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

I am eager to see what you make of it. 

Skurvy5 Supporter4 days ago | 2 points[-]

It’ll be fun to see the progress. And to know that this will definitely get a retail release and I’ll definitely get to play it at some point. 

philryuh Supporter5 days ago | 2 points[-]

So far we have Explorers, Shipwrights, Raiders, Architects, Paladins, and Viscounts. Their most successful (while also the latest) games I believe are Raiders, Architects, and Paladins, which all have worker placement mechanisms. I wonder if that's a sign of them having struck the right chord with the audience and going with their strong suit, while venturing a little bit further and further outside of it with each game. And while I like them all because each game has a unique take on the typical worker placement mechanisms, it's certainly a good sign that their changing things up with Viscounts.

I feel the same way, I'm very interested in the campaign even though I'll likely wait for retail.

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Viscounts is not worker placement at all, if that matters :)

Skyw3rd 8 hours ago | 1 point[-]

If this is the last KS from Garphill I just might back it even though I'll get this game anyways because of course I am.

sdirrane Supporter7 hours ago | 1 point[-]

I'd be surprised to see it be there last KS.  I feel like most companies don't move into retail too quickly.  It would be nice if they have a South and East Trilogy that it goes straight to retail.

sdirrane Supporter5 days ago | 1 point[-]

I just hope that with their East and South games (assuming they do them), they change up some of the mechanisms.  They seem to favor Worker Placement as the main mechanic almost always.

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Paladins and Viscounts are not worker placement. Unless you count the Kings orders spots in Paladins.

sdirrane Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

What would you say the mechanics of Paladins is then?

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Its a form of action selection for me. Or just a resource management game. The knack to getting good scores in Paladins is chaining moves that get you more meeples, which is kinda the antithesis of the locked scarcity of worker placement. Mentally, i approach the game totally differently than I would a worker placement game. 

sdirrane Supporter4 days ago | 2 points[-]

Cool, okay.  Thanks, I do like resource management and action selection.  I still think it'll be low on my list because of the multiplayer solitaire feel I've heard it has.

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Yeah, its  low on interaction. Like no way to really interrupt others plans, just ways to take stuff first. 

sdirrane Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Gotya, not my favorite.  I like a lot of player interaction.  Or at least a decent amount.  I can be okay with lower amounts on occasion.

philryuh Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

For Paladins, is this one of those instances where you wouldn't consider it a worker placement game just because you get something from placing down a worker/meeple? Since I haven't played Paladins, I just assumed it's worker placement going by the mechanics shown on BGG.

sdirrane Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

That's what I was going off of as well.  I think some people have different "requirements" for what they call worker placement.

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Worker placement involves scarcity, in paladins, you are just placing tokens on your own board, nothing is locked out by your actions. Take a game like lords of waterdeep, if someone takes a spot, you can't. That's worker placement to me. 

Marshwiggle92 Supporter4 days ago | 2 points[-]

I agree that traditional worker placement involves scarcity. And it seems like the west kingdom series has departed from that. And, quite frankly that has been a problem for me... I love tight mean worker placement games. I think #Agricola (Revised Edition) is better than #Caverna: The Cave Farmers. But, maybe I would be more excited about getting into the west kingdom series if I didn't think of them as worker placement. 

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Have you tried Crisis? if you like your worker placement tight and nasty, thats one of the better ones

Marshwiggle92 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

I haven't tried it. 

Skurvy5 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

I don’t mind worker placement and they’ve done a great job mixing up the standard mechanism in each game. 

philryuh Supporter5 days ago | 1 point[-]

Haha I replied to your comment in the wrong spot :(

But you know, I should try to see if Shem might have time for an interview some day.

sdirrane Supporter5 days ago | 1 point[-]

Haha, no sweat.  I'm going to respond here.  But yeah, I'd love to see an interview with Shem.  And I agree they've found something with the Worker Placement and maybe that'll be good for me since it'll keep me away.  I just like when designers try to do something different.

It's just weird (granted I've not played Paladins) to have a game featuring Knights with no combat.

3MBG 4 days ago | 1 point[-]

We interviewed Sam, the other designer of the West Kingdom games. And will be getting Shem on the show later in the year. 

Skurvy5 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

There is combat in Paladins! Just not against other players. 

sdirrane Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Gotya, that's cool.  I like that direct player interaction as you all know.  But I think I'd play Paladins if someone else was bringing it to the table.  Doesn't seem like a game I'd buy at this point.

Skurvy5 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Come to my table and Paladins will be there!

sdirrane Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Nice.  One of these days.  It is free to play on www.tabletopia.com 

Maybe I can learn the rules and play solo there.

Marshwiggle92 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

are you going to be springing for #The West Kingdom Tomesaga?

Skurvy5 Supporter4 days ago | 1 point[-]

Probably not. 

WadeB1977 5 days ago | 1 point[-]

Yup, following for sure

Marshwiggle92 Supporter5 days ago | 1 point[-]

I do look forward to to following it.... 

theDL 5 days ago | 1 point[-]

"Reprints of all previous west kingdom titles" has me more interested at the moment, haha. That may change with more details on this one, though. Wonder what the prices will be like for those.