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I Need Help Again

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Hey everyone, I know I already asked about #Architects of the West Kingdom and #Cry Havoc earlier this week but I need your help again.

Right now I currently have both #Dune and #Architects of the West Kingdom in my possession, but I need to return one of them.

Now, my head is telling me the choice is pretty easy, keep #Architects of the West Kingdom, but my heart is screaming at me, keep #Dune.  The only problem is I'm worried it will only get played 1 - 2 (on a good year) times a year.  While Architects will get played more like 5 - 6 times a year (maybe more).

What would you do?  I need your advice.

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Premium User4 months ago

Architects would be my choice out of those 2 for the reasons you describe.  UNLESS you already have a ton of games like it then an "event" game is worth having.

4 months ago

Did you decide?

Supporter4 months ago

What are you putting your figuritve money on?

4 months ago

I reckon you've kept #Dune 

Supporter4 months ago

I sent my photo to  last night so I think it'll probably be posted soon

4 months ago

Nice

Supporter4 months ago

So, have you decided yet?

 

Supporter4 months ago

Well... I'm planning on sending Phil my winning photo tonight...

Supporter4 months ago

Yay.... 

Premium User4 months ago

Hmm..is there a reason you're worried Dune won't get played much vs Architects?

Supporter4 months ago

Yes... and also I'm a bit worried that some of my gaming group wouldn't enjoy/appreciate the complexity the way I would.

Premium User4 months ago

Yeah having a game that requires a certain group might not be ideal but I'd agree with what others have brought up - keeping whichever one excites you more and would make you happier to own

Supporter4 months ago

I'm thinking I'll basically just sneak it in and say hey lets play this and see how it goes.

4 months ago

I would personally advise against that unless your game group is up for a lot of things. I have had pretty good success after having people watch the videos from the publisher leading up to game night and then also reviewing all the rules right before the game. The game actually isn't too complicated, but there are 9 phases, which can be overwhelming, and when you add in that every faction has different abilities, I feel like it's a lot to just throw at someone.

But if your group is cool with being thrown in the deep end and taking the first game as a learning game, go for it, I guess. There was an interesting thread on BGG forums a while back called something like "How to teach Dune in 5 minutes" that may interest you if this is your approach. I'll try to find it.

Supporter4 months ago

My group generally just trusts me to introduce and teach a new game.  Only one guy in my group ever watches anything before we play that I send.  So I will give a small heads up of what we will play and that it's complex but I think it'll be okay with my guys.

In general I would agree with your philosophy however.

4 months ago

Well cool then, good luck! Study up! I watched a couple playthroughs (of the old version, mind you), and that helped quite a bit to internalize the structure. I'm excited to hear how it goes :)

Also assuming this is the game that you picked...

Supporter4 months ago

Yeah that's typically how it goes always.  They trust that I'm going to learn the game in great great detail and pass that info on to them.

4 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js_WINTqtjo

There are 4 of these I think

Supporter4 months ago

I'll check them out.  Did you happen to watch the series of videos from Gale Force 9 that explained each of the different parts of the game?

4 months ago

Yep those were the videos I had my friends watch beforehand

Supporter4 months ago

If that's my pick I'll check em before we play.

Supporter4 months ago

Awesome.  Thanks!

Owner4 months ago

#Architects of the West Kingdom is a good choice if you want a worker placement game with a different flavor and one that plays very quickly even at higher player counts. Another plus is that it has a nice solo mode that you can enjoy, but if soloing hasn't been all that frequent for you anyway, then I don't see this changing up that pace all that much. And you have #Pax Pamir (Second Edition) coming your way anyway and I personally think it has a more compelling solo mode.

For #Dune, everything about it seems to suggest that it's your dream board game. And especially since you're thinking Architects will maybe see 5-6 plays, I think your 1-2 plays with Dune in a year will be more than worth that.

I would go Dune. It's the perfect game for you and even if it only sees 1 play in a year, you're getting it through the giveaway anyway :)

Now, any idea how soon a Dune night could be arranged?

4 months ago

When you say 'in you possession' have your bought both of them?

Supporter4 months ago

Yes and I'll be returning one.

4 months ago

Ha, nice, both are great games! Personally, I would recommend keeping both and selling on #Raiders of the North Sea if that is an option for you as I think architects is the better game in that series (although it is heavier too so maybe that is a factor)

However, with that binary choice, I would be tempted to say go with whichever one excites you the most, which seems to be Dune. I know with TI4 I may only play it twice a year (and not at all until this pandemic eases) but I am just so excited to get my friends to play it

Supporter4 months ago

This is a great option... I'm just not sure that I have the means to sell off Raiders.

4 months ago

Ah, fair enough, sorry I assumed. I will be interested to know which you keep 😀

Supporter4 months ago

You have often stated that you are happy with your collection the way it is. If this is true, then get Dune. It won't get played often, but neither will it compete for play time with the other mid weight euros you already have.

So, in short, if you feel like your collection is well rounded enough for you right now, than go wild.... Get something you don't have to play it as often.