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My pet peeves of the board game industry

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I attempted to sleeve my copy of #Via Magica and became slightly annoyed. I don’t think there are sleeves that fit. At least box wasn’t as cumbersome as its predecessor #Rise of Augustus. That got me thinking of things publishers do that vex me. Here is my list… feel free to add your own.  

Non-standard card sizes

  • Good luck finding sleeves for these puppies.
  • Can make shuffling an ordeal.

Inserts

  • Often inserts will not accommodate sleeves.
  • Sometimes they don’t even house what is found in the box.
  • Publishers often neglect to have a diagram on how to store all the components.
  • Inserts maybe entirely useless hunks of paper or plastics that will get chucked anyway.

What is holding the game?

  • Box could be unnecessarily large for what is houses (looking at you Queen Games).
  • If game is going to have expansions, larger size is acceptable.
  • Tins are often nice looking, but will often hog up more room than needed.
  • Odd box sizes (like #5-Minute Dungeon or #Thunderstone Quest) are on the same ground as tins as far as I am concerned.

Rule books

 

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2 months ago

No baggies included in the box always feels really cheap... there's nothing worse than loose rubble!

This is controversial and kinda random but I hate plastic pawns as player tokens. They just make me think of cheap, 90s games and bring a production right down for me. I'm looking at you, #Pandemic.

I also can't stand tacky logos on card backs. If you're making a deckbuilder, is it really necessary to market your game with the logo and title on the back of every single card? I've already bought it - I don't want to see the advert! I'd much rather a nice looking deck with a strong art asset on the back. I love #Star Realms but man...

Premium User2 months ago

No baggies is the worsssttt....Luckily the future wife saves all our extras

2 months ago

If you happen to have a Daiso near you they sell small plastic baggies.  We have a stash of varying sizes. 

Premium User2 months ago

I've never heard of this place. Looks like there's a couple in or around NYC we could go to next time we're there.

I just played#Barrage for the first time yesterday and it came with exactly 0 baggies for anything you had to punch. So now our stash has slim pickings.

2 months ago

Yeah its like a Japanese dollar store (except everything is $1.50).  Super cute stuff.  They also sell small plastic containers you can use for the same purpose if you're willing to toss your insert.  Sometimes they work out better depending on the game.  Only bad thing is that the stock rotates so they don't always have the same size containers or baggies.

My friend also told me about these tiny plastic containers that they sell at dollar stores for 10 for a dollar (even cheaper than Daiso).  I went to one and bought out their stock for future use haha.   

Owner2 months ago

Daiso is great! Had one nearby when I used to near in the Bay Area (California). Not anymore :(

Premium User2 months ago

I'll have to check them out! Thanks for the tips!

Supporter2 months ago

Oh, pet peeves......

  • Nonfunctional inserts. I am with you there. I would rather have no inserts than some of the junk they call inserts. And, seriously, I am fine with baggies. I don't need an insert. But, no matter of you give an insert or just a bunch of baggies. I want instructions of how to pack the game. Which counters should be bagged together? Which compartment holds which mini? How does the insert fit in the box? Just give me some direction there.
    • Also, if you go to the effort to design an insert, make an effort to give it a lid so that you can store it whichever way you want. I don't care if it is a plastic lid, or if you engineer it in such a way that the box lid serves as a insert lid. But, my favorite is when the board fits into the insert as a lid.
  • It really chaps my hide when the publisher makes the board and/or the rulebook take up the whole interior footprint and you can't get your fingers in there for it.
  • Make two people, just two people, try to learn your game from your rulebook. And don't get brilliant people, get average people from your target audience.
  • I like good art, I like nice components. But, DON"T LET PURSUIT OF NICE ART AND/OR COMPONENTS GET IN THE WAY OF CLARITY DURING GAMEPLAY. 
  • Do not ever put essential gameplay components in expansions. Do not release a unfinished game with the idea that you can finish it with expansions. If your game "needs' an expansion it should have been in the core box.
  • Related to the above. If you want a good way for me to loose some interest in your game, just put a promo for one of your other games in the box. 

I have some more, but if I think too much of them it doens't really improve my mood. LOL

Premium User2 months ago

The expansion point is exactly how I feel about #Terraforming Mars. To me the Prelude expansion is so essential it should have been included with the base game. And don't get me started on the $20 I had to drop just for functional player boards. 

Supporter2 months ago

Honestly, I will probably get #Terraforming Mars at some point. But, those are THE two reasons I have not bought it yet. Is that petty? maybe, but they are pet peeves of mine.

Premium User2 months ago

Not petty at all! I'm really just happy I got it on sale. If I had paid anything more than what I did, I'd be so incredibly annoyed. But these are the reasons they're not getting anymore of my money haha. If I get another expansion, someone will have to buy it for me :D

Supporter2 months ago

Glad that I am not the only one that feels that way.

2 months ago

I don't run into problems with most of these with my relatively small collection, but I will sure be ticked if I do run into them

Premium User2 months ago

You just wait..

2 months ago

yes, I'm sure it's inevitable

Supporter2 months ago

Oh you will run into them..... LOL

2 months ago

oh, well that makes me not very optimistic

Supporter2 months ago

LOL

Supporter2 months ago

Ugh totally useless inserts are the worst. A lot of FFG games give you that trench style cardboard fold and it's straight garbage. 

2 months ago

Yeah, those make no sense. Like I took the carboard folds out of #Aeon's End: War Eternal and I'm like, you could have made the box a third of what it is...

2 months ago

DUDE THOSE ARE THE WORST

Premium User2 months ago

Uh oh is this changing up your biggest two already?! :P

2 months ago

haha I guess youre right....

I think the thing i hate about them is that they somehow feel like they apart of the game and then I feel bad tossing it... but then I cant fit anything in the box...

one remedy I came across with #Race for the Galaxy was simply turning the cardboard insert upside down. It gave me 2/3 of the box to used opposed to 1/3, which then allowed me to fit in #The Gathering Storm expansion in the same box!

Premium User2 months ago

A couple of people in the BGB discord channel have talked about literally cutting their boxes in half to save space. I could never bring myself to ruin a game box like that so more power to them.

2 months ago

Oof same here.. that scares me too much haha

Premium User2 months ago

I will say they shared a couple photos of the finished product and didn't look bad

2 months ago

haha thats good! I would love to see it!

Premium User2 months ago

I'll see if I can find some when I get home from work!

Supporter2 months ago

I totally agree! I couldn't throw them away because they have cool Star Wars art but I also couldn't keep them in the box either because they were so useless. My wife literally just found a giant box of them and made me recycle them last week. It was easier when she made me do it. 

2 months ago

BRO...I can definitely understand the plight lol

Supporter2 months ago

Also I always found a small amount of satisfaction calling it the trench fold and me acquiring them from Star Wars games. But other than that I really hate them. 

2 months ago

hahaha thats too good.. but it really is so hard to know what to do with extra "junk". Especially with expanison boxes that are empty due to consolidation

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Supporter2 months ago

One of my pet peeves is just spending money on the right things in the game.  I backed #Western Legends and I love the game, but there are a few things they made "nicer" and neglected other things, and honestly, most of the upgrades weren't that great.  Big dice and a crappy clothe bag versus heavier cardstock for the player aids, and a cheap design for the general store.

I only have one game that this applies to but man does #Clans of Caledonia need a bigger box.  And not even by much, but it's just a couple of CM's too small.

However, my biggest pet peeve is including minis just because.  I don't mind minis sometimes, but I feel a lot get thrown in just to make the sale.  A few games in KS recently have given you a meeple versus mini option and I love that because in general meeples are king.